The Big Ten-SEC Challenge
(ed. note: This was initially published a year ago. As we watch another ACC/Big Ten basketball challenge unfold, it's fun to dream of what could have been)
Imagine if you will a world where athletic directors and conference comissioners are bold, fearless, and do what is best for their fans. Imagine a world in which conferences will put their manhood on the line and face off to see which conference is the best. That's right, what follows is a work of science fiction.
As we suffer through another Big Ten drubbing in the ACC-Big Ten Challenge (do we even win a game tonight?), imagine if ten years ago when that series was created the Big Ten entered into a similar series with the SEC - but in football. Yes, because football schedules are made so far in advance the series wouldn't begin immediately, as the Big Ten's basketball series did. Instead it would run for two years in 2009 and 2010.
The parameters were agreed to in an undiclosed location. Based upon the conference standings of the 2008 season, the SEC and Big Ten would match up their teams. The 7th Place SEC team would skip the challenge. Teams would get a home game and a road game and not play the same team twice. To make things more sporting, the SEC home games would be in the second weekend in September. The Big Ten home games would be in the second weekend in November.
As fate wold have it, 3-5 LSU was left out of the challenge. These eleven games were scheduled to take place.
| Date | Visitor | Home |
| Nov. 14, 2009 | Alabama | Penn St. |
| Nov. 14, 2009 | Florida | Ohio St. |
| Sept. 12, 2009 | Michigan St. | Georgia |
| Sept. 12, 2009 | Northwestern | Mississippi |
| Sept. 12, 2009 | Iowa | Vanderbilt |
| Sept. 12, 2009 | Wisconsin | South Carolina |
| Nov. 14, 2009 | Tennessee | Minnesota |
| Nov. 14, 2009 | Kentucky | Illinois |
| Nov. 14, 2009 | Auburn | Michigan |
| Spet. 12, 2009 | Purdue | Arkansas |
| Sept. 12, 2009 | Indiana | Mississippi St. |
I won't spoil the results of each game, but I will inform you that the SEC argued that they would have come away with the 6-5 series win "if the game in Minneapolis wasn't played in sub-human conditions." It should be noted that LSU faced Arkansas State and Idaho State on these two weekends.
Who knew that the outdoors would be the difference?
The matchups the next year proved just as intriguing.
| Date | Visitor | Home |
| Sept. 11, 2010 | Ohio State | Alabama |
| Sept. 11, 2010 | Penn State | Florida |
| Nov. 13, 2010 | Georgia | Northwestern |
| Nov. 13, 2010 | Mississippi | Michigan State |
| Nov. 13, 2010 | Vanderbilt | Wisconsin |
| Nov. 13, 2010 | South Carolina | Iowa |
| Sept. 11, 2010 | Illinois | Tennessee |
| Sept. 11, 2010 | Michigan | Kentucky |
| Sept. 11, 2010 | Minnesota | Auburn |
| Nov. 13, 2010 | Arkansas | Indiana |
| Nov. 13, 2010 | Mississippi St. | Purdue |
The SEC won 6 of the 11 games during the second challenge. Nowhere was the clash of cultures more pronounced than in Evanston, Illinois. "How can you not fill a stadium this small?" was the common refrain from the Bulldog fans which outnumbered the purple faithful.
H/T to Hayden Fry's Moustache Ride
It was a good series that ended in a two year draw. After it was done, the conferences walked away and went back to scheduling the Sun Belt and MAC teams that paid the bills.
Seriously though, how cool would it be to have something like this? If you prefer, imagine the same idea with the Big XII (sans 7th Place Kansas)...
| 2009 Visitor | 2009 Home | 2010 Visitor | 2010 Home |
| Penn State | Oklahoma | Texas | Penn State |
| Ohio State | Texas | Oklahoma | Ohio State |
| Texas Tech | Michigan State | Michigan State | Oklahoma State |
| Oklahoma State | Northwestern | Northwestern | Texas Tech |
| Missouri | Iowa | Iowa | Nebraska |
| Nebraska | Wisconsin | Wisconsin | Missouri |
| Minnesota | Colorado | Kansas State | Minnesota |
| Illinois | Kansas State | Baylor | Illinois |
| Michigan | Baylor | Colorado | Michigan |
| Texas A&M | Purdue | Purdue | Iowa State |
| Iowa State | Indiana | Indiana | Texas A&M |
It'd be a good deal for all involved. It's a shame it will never happen.
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As we suffer through another Big Ten drubbing in the ACC-Big Ten Challenge (do we even win a game tonight?),
I hope that was serious sarcasm.
by gahnki on Dec 3, 2008 2:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Fantasy is a superlative...
It’s the ultimate ideal.
I’ve had almost as much fun reading your latest effort as I do actually watching our teams play unimaginative opponents (we’ll call them Arkansas State and Idaho State for no particular reason…)
My particular favorite is Florida’s hypothetical visit to the ‘Shoe in November. Imagine their reaction to the blistering gusts, heavy flakes, and lifeless gray sky. It’s a perfect pale-skinned hell.
And there aren’t sideline heaters…
We’re sending this article to the Network Big Wigs to have it featured on the main page. Hopefully that will generate a flurry of perspectives from all over SBN.
by Law Buckeye on Dec 3, 2008 3:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Imagine how many Buckeye would be cramping up and heaving on the sidelines during a mid-afternoon game in Gainesville in September. It’s a hot, humid, soul-sapping hell.
I’ve been to both Columbus in winter and I spent 4 years at UF, and I can tell you they are pretty good analogues on opposite ends of the spectrum. And my fiancee (originally a Floridian like I am) who went to UF undergrad and is now at grad school at OSU assures me that summer in Ohio is nowhere near summer in Florida.
Anyway, this would be a fun construct to have. I doubt anything like this would happen between the Big Ten and any other BCS conference because Jim Delaney seems like he’d never do anything that could potentially compromise the Big Ten brand he’s trying to build. If his conference didn’t do so hot a couple years in a row, it wouldn’t look very good on the conference’s reputation, something he is tasked as commissioner to uphold.
Not that the SEC would automatically jump headlong into it either, but if you flash enough dollar signs, the folks down here will try just about anything once.
by Year2 on Dec 4, 2008 12:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Eternal Struggle...
On one hand, everyone loves easy non-conference wins that boost the win total…On the other hand, winning a tough early matchup pays dividends (big game experience, national recognition, stronger BCS rating)…
The logical next question is: What would pull these two conferences together besides money? Or is it only money?
by grahamfiller10 on Dec 4, 2008 8:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's always money.
Truth be told, a lot of the matchups wouldn’t be that novel. We’ve seen them in the Outback Bowl/Capital One Bowl/Music City Bowl in year’s past (especially when Tennessee and Michigan move back into their customary places in the pecking order. A series would likely work better with the Big 12 or even the ACC.
by Bama Hawkeye on Dec 4, 2008 8:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Our bowl lineup starting next year will have 3 Big Ten/SEC bowls on New Year’s Day going on at the same time – that’s effectively a Big Ten/SEC Challenge.
by Frank the Tank on Dec 2, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Odd that LSU is out of it.
All-time, LSU has played one game against Penn State and has never played Michigan. Even that PSU game was back in 1973.
by Cairo on Dec 2, 2009 10:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just a fluke
I went by the SEC conference standings after the 2008 season (this was written last year). LSU, at 3-5, finished in 7th Place. That was the slot that I had pre-decided would be eliminated.
http://www.rivalryesq.com/
The quintessential Big Ten smoking room.
by Bama Hawkeye on Dec 2, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Love the Big 10, Big 12 matchups
Seeing Iowa play both Missouri and Nebraska would be awesome for some border bragging rights. I am not bothering to look up the 2011 schedule, but assuming we play Illinois after this two year hiatus, that would be every major FBS university from every state bordering Iowa with the exception of South Dakota (you can throw in Iowa State as well).
Worth noting, we were supposed to play Missouri sometime over the past couple years. They dropped us, so I think we had to pick up Northern Iowa.
by Bearhawkroar! on Dec 2, 2009 10:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs















