Is This a Down Year for the Big 10? The BCS Doesn't Think So...
One of the more oft-repeated truisms of the 2009-2010 college football season is that this is a "down year" for the Big 10 conference. Supposedly, the Big 10 is on a slide from its recent glory days when it was one of the more dominant BCS conferences.
In this meme, the Big 10 has been replaced by the SEC and the Big 12 and now ranks a solid third (sometimes even fourth, behind the Pac-10) in terms of conference power. The "fact" of the Big 10's down year is so widely known, it was even repeated by a SB Nation writer as recently as today in their aggregate coverage of the discussion surrounding the newly released BCS Rankings.
Those same rankings tell a different tale, however. According to the BCS rankings, there is a conference that is having a down year - but it isn't the Big 10. I looked at the rankings and, with the help of my trusty spreadsheet, compared the newly released BCS rankings to both the final and week 1 BCS rankings from 2006-2008 (2006 was the stopping point because that's the earliest year for which the polls in the BCS rankings are identical to the ones used today.) The results of my comparison may surprise you...
Perhaps the easiest ways to judge a conference's relative power is to compare the number of teams that conference has in the BCS rankings as compared to the other conferences. There are twenty-five teams ranked in each weekly edition of the BCS rankings, and those teams come from the six major BCS conferences as well as independents and the non-BCS conferences.Check out other content on The Rivalry, Esq...
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For the purposes of this analysis, I did not look at independant teams or teams from the MAC, MWC, WAC, C-USA, or Sun Belt. This comparison is thus just limited to the six BCS conferences. (*The 2009 data points are based on week 1 rankings, since we obviously don't have final rankings for this season yet.)
This graph shows the final BCS rankings from 2006-2009...
In the above graph, we see the year in question represented on the X-axis and the number of teams represented by each conference on the Y-axis. Each colored line represents one of the six conferences.
A few trends are immediately apparent here. First, the SEC has tended to be the most heavily represented conference - having five teams represented in the final 25 ranked teams in the years of 2006 and 2007, and four teams in 2008 and 2009. The Big 12 is not far behind, with four teams in 2006, four teams in 2007, five in 2008, and three in 2009. The ACC has been remarkably consistent - having three teams in the final poll in all but 2007, in which it had four. The Big East is also relatively consistent. They have had three teams represented in both 2006 and 2009, a high of four teams in 2007 and a low of two teams in 2008.
The Pac-10 was heavily represented in 2006 with four teams, but has declined every year since, with the exception of this year in which they increased their representation from two to three teams.
Finally, we can take a look at the Big 10. Similar to the SEC, the Big 10 has been represented by two different number of teams during the four years examined. Unlike the SEC, the Big 10's representation in the BCS Rankings has increased - having only three teams in the rankings in 2006 and 2007, and four teams in 2008 and 2009.
So far, it would seem that the Big 10 is actually having a year identical to last year - and an improvement over the 2006-2007 era. Of the major conferences, the one conference with a significant down year appears to be the Big 12. This intuitively makes sense. Sam Bradford's injury woes at Oklahoma along with the mediocrity of former representatives such as Texas Tech, Missouri, Nebraska, and Texas A&M has contributed to the decline in their overall conference representation.
But wait, you say. It doesn't seem fair to compare the 2009 Week 1 rankings to the final rankings from past years - after all, don't the teams shuffle in the weeks between the first released rankings and the final rankings? Well, yes, they do. However, while the specific teams represented may change from week to week, the number of teams each conference has in the rankings remains surprisingly consistent throughout the BCS ranking period.
A second graph bears this out:
This is a graph of the Week One BCS Rankings from 2006-2009...
In this graph we see the number of teams represented in the week 1 BCS rankings by each conference from the years 2006-2009. Similar to the above graph, a few trends are apparent.
First, the SEC and the Big 12 appear to be slightly over-represented in the week 1 rankings as compared to where the teams shake out in the end. In 2007, the SEC had a conference high of seven teams represented in the week 1 BCS rankings, only to have two of those teams drop off the rankings map by the time the final rankings came out. In 2008, the Big 12 nearly tied this record, having six teams in the week 1 rankings, before losing one team by the time the final rankings appeared. The over-representation of the SEC and Big 12 (along with the over-representation of the Pac-10 in 2007) have caused under-representation among the other conferences in the BCS - the Big 10, ACC, and Big East in the various years examined.
Looking just at the Big 10 now, we notice that in 2006 the Big 10 was represented by four teams in the week 1 rankings, before falling to only two teams in 2007. In 2008 and 2009, the Big 10 improved and has held steady with four teams once again represented in the week 1 rankings. We can thus conclude that if any recent year was a down year for the Big 10 based on the week 1 BCS rankings, that year would have to be 2007. In 2009 the Big 10 has actually held steady on the improvement it underwent in 2008.
Digging deeper into this graph we can also see that, in comparison to 2008, the SEC has, like the Big 10 held steady, while the ACC, Big East, and Pac-10 have all improved. The lone conference to have a decline in representation in the week 1 rankings from 2008 to 2009 is our old friend, the Big 12.
One final argument that I've often heard is that, really, the full BCS rankings don't matter, only the top 10 places do. After all, there are four BCS bowls in addition to the national championship game, with the top 10 teams in the rankings usually somewhat close to the teams that go to these bowls. So, maybe conference power should really be measured by how many teams a conference has ultimately had ranked in the top 10 places at the end of the season.
Looking into this produces one more graph:
This graph shows the number of schools each conference had in the top 10 of the final BCS rankings from 2006-2009...
In fact, we notice looking at this graph that there is really only one other pattern that stands out. The Big 12 has consistently been represented by one team in the top 10 (usually Texas) in the years 2006, 2007, and 2009. In 2008, though, they were represented by a conference high of four teams in the top 10. That is the highest conference representation among the major conferences in all the years examined, higher than even the SEC can claim. Their descent from this lofty height back to having only one team in the top 10 certainly represents a major decline. This graph, then, like the others suggests that the conference having a down year in the 2009-2010 season is actually the Big 12, not the Big 10.
So... if the BCS rankings don't bear out the theory that the Big 10 is in the midst of a down year, why is that truism so prevalent? Well, I have a few hunches...
First, the ascendancy of the SEC over the last several years and the great year that the Big 12 had in 2008 seems to have pushed those two conferences to the forefront of commentators and voters thoughts when evaluating the conferences relative power among the BCS, regardless if this is matched by play on the field or not.
Also, the BCS rankings are seeing increasing representation from the non-BCS conferences and the independent schools within the top 10. While these conferences have always been represented in relatively consistent numbers within the entirety of the BCS rankings, their recent jump into the top 10 has pushed certain BCS conference schools out of or lower in the rankings, thus artificially deflating the stock of some of the teams in the Big 10. It can certainly be argued that these "outside" teams deserve their high rankings just as much as the teams in the Big 10, and this is a point that I wouldn't necessarily debate. However, their ascendancy is a possible contributor to the myth of the Big 10's decline.
Finally, while the middle schools of the SEC, the Big 12, and the Pac-10 are mediocre and the bottom schools truly rotten, the dominance of the conference power houses (Florida, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, and USC) casts a halo around the rest of the conference that makes their conference look stronger as a whole. With OSU's recent faltering, the Big 10 doesn't really have a star team that has the same effect.
Sure, Iowa is currently undefeated, but when even Vegas doesn't believe in you, it's hard to say that their record pulls the rest of the conference up in comparison to the other BCS conferences. This is compounded by some near losses on the part of Iowa to "easy" teams like Northern Iowa. Part of what helps Florida cast such a glow over some of the lesser SEC schools is that when they play teams perceived as easier they tend to beat them by 40 or 50 points. While I personally find such pummeling of inferior competition distasteful, it's clear that it makes an impact in the broadcast world. This is most easily illustrated by the attention that the major college football broadcasters - ESPN and CBS - pay to the SEC. Heck, they've even got a new SEC / ESPN logo these days. Dare to dream, I suppose...
Perhaps if Iowa continues their play and earns some style points along the way this all will change. The ideal situation for the Big 10 as far as reputation gathering goes, would be for the trio of Iowa, Penn State, and Ohio State (or another three, though those are currently the most likely) to return to dominance and stay there for a few years. This would then hopefully start to change the pervasive, yet misleading, aura of weakness around the Big 10.
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I don't see one thing
The SEC and BigXII have a greater chance of getting teams in the Top 25 simply because they have a greater number of teams in the conference (12) than other conferences, particularly when compared to the Big East’s eight teams. In a purely statistical model (and assuming no .500 records), 50% of the teams will have a winning record and 50% will have a losing record. It stands to reason that while 6 SEC schools will have a winning record in any given week, there will be only 4 Big East schools with a winning record. This isn’t accounted for in the model. The Big Ten’s 11 teams means they will have 11/12ths as many teams in the BCS poll as the SEC or BigXII or ACC.
But perhaps this bears something out entirely differently—conferences with fewer teams will have correspondingly less press, fewer winning teams, and therefore less votes in the media portion of the BCS poll. Maybe that’s worth exploring.
by Cairo on Oct 20, 2009 7:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that I understand your point...
College football obviously doesn’t exist in a perfect statistical model. Further, any team’s given schedule includes non-conference games as well as in conference games, especially towards the beginning of the season. It is therefore easily possible for more than 50% of the teams in any given conference to have winning records by the time the rankings are produced…. Also, if conference size was the main variable in how many teams a given conference fielded in a BCS rankings poll, then it would seem that it would almost always be the case that the SEC and the Big 12 would have the most teams in the poll, as they are the largest of the conferences. By this logic, then, the Big 10 would always be third. We don’t really see this in the graphs above, as the only years that somewhat conform to this also feature a Pac-10 conference with 10 members below the Big East and ACC.
by hmlee on Oct 20, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Essentially...
I’m saying that the Big Ten has a harder time being in the top 10 or top 25 of the BCS because it has one less team than the SEC, Big XII, or ACC—which is one less team that can be in the top 10 or top 25.
by Cairo on Oct 20, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose
But I think this then assumes that all teams are relatively equal and have a relatively equal chance of being in the rankings at any one given point in time. If a conference had 40 teams, and 38 of them were Division III level, then by sheer numbers they would have higher chances of being within the rankings, but in reality they would not.
by hmlee on Oct 20, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easiest way, IMO
Is for one of your trilogy (or two, if the B10 sends two teams this year) to go into the BCS bowls and win. We (the B10) have such a horrible reputation these days because we’ve been handled quite ruthlessly in the bowls lately. Specifically, PSU’s ass-kicking by USC last year and OSU’s recent troubles versus LSU / Florida.
This year, things seem to be looking up. If PSU makes the BCS, their defense should keep them in the game. Their offensive line, which was much-maligned earlier in the season, seems to be gelling and coming around.
Iowa, on the other hand, has much the same M.O. to lean back on. Their defense should lead, and assuming Stanzi continues to grow through his Stanziballs (and the OL opens up holes for A-Rob or Wegher), then they should be able to perform admirably against just about anybody as well.
This is all conjecture, from a hopeful B10 fan, but I honestly believe if the B10 performs well at the top this year, the “pundits” will get off our collective back and acknowledge that we do play real football up north.
by imadirtyoldman on Oct 20, 2009 8:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the losses in bowl games
do have something to do with the conference perception. However, I was reluctant to name it as a major factor in this article because in the end each of those games is just one game, and with the exception of the instances where teams from the Big 10 have gotten truly trounced, the outcome isn’t always a guide to the strength of the teams in the games….
by hmlee on Oct 20, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't stop commentators from viewing it as such
Is the lousy bowl record (mostly from teams “playing up” due to getting a second BCS bid every year) proof by itself that the Big Ten sucks? No rational person would view it as such. But no one ever said the commentators were rational. (In fact, in a few cases, they’re very clearly not.)
by SpartanDan on Oct 20, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be interested to see how it shakes out with a weighted-average ranking ...
Rather than just number of teams in the Top 25 or Top 10 or whathaveyou, it might be useful to assign a weight to each ranking – something like 25 points for a top seed and 1 point for number 25 – and do an average of the averages over the course of the season for each conference.
I’d be up for trying, but all that math is making my head hurt, and I still have to lend money for the rest of the day.
Man looks in the abyss, there's nothing staring back at him. At that moment, man finds his character. And that is what keeps him out of the abyss. -- Lou Mannheim, Wall Street
by ChiSpartan on Oct 20, 2009 8:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This sounds interesting...
But I am a law student and not a statistician. Numbers are not generally my thing. If you come up with a fleshed out way of doing this I can run the numbers in the spreadsheet…
by hmlee on Oct 20, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me know where you’re getting you’re historical BCS numbers, and I’ll try to whip something together.
It might be quick and ugly – and probably way off base – but … who knows, it could be gold!
Man looks in the abyss, there's nothing staring back at him. At that moment, man finds his character. And that is what keeps him out of the abyss. -- Lou Mannheim, Wall Street
by ChiSpartan on Oct 20, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me know what exactly you want it to do and I can have an excell template for you (then you can do it weekly) within a few minutes
not that hard actually.
or, email me
barga.24@osu.edu
by Robert Barga on Oct 20, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can do that
Let me know what exactly you want it to do and I can have an excell template for you (then you can do it weekly) within a few minutes
not that hard actually.
or, email me
barga.24@osu.edu
by Robert Barga on Oct 20, 2009 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is interesting
I went ahead and plugged in the numbers as suggested and came out with the following:
1. SEC – 1 (25), 2 (24), 9 (17), 24 (2) = 68
2. Big Ten – 6 (20), 13 (13), 19 (7), 21 (5) = 45
3. ACC- 10 (16), 12 (14), 14 (12) = 42
4. Pac Ten – 7 (19), 11 (15), 22 (4) = 38
5. Big 12 – 3 (23), 15 (11), 25 (1) = 35
6. MWC – 8 (18), 16 (10), 18 (7) = 35
7. Big East – 5 (21), 20 (6), 23 (3) = 30
8. WAC – 4 (22) = 22
9. CUSA – 17 (9) = 9
If you want an explanation please check out my site (http://whalertly.com/wordpress/2009/10/20/the-big-ten-is-the-second-best-conference-in-the-country-and-i-can-prove-it/) or email me. If you give me historical numbers, I can do this for those and create graphs for you…
barga.24@osu.edu
http://www.whalertly.com/wordpress
http://blogcritics.org/sports/feature/abcs-of-columbus-sports/
by Robert Barga on Oct 20, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m working on a methodology that adjusts the score based on the number of teams in a given conference vs. the number of those teams that are ranked. I’ll email it to you.
Man looks in the abyss, there's nothing staring back at him. At that moment, man finds his character. And that is what keeps him out of the abyss. -- Lou Mannheim, Wall Street
by ChiSpartan on Oct 20, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so do it by percentage of ranked?
hmmm, that could be fun when you add in the points from ranked too, like 45/11 or 68/12 or that sort of stuff (helps to balance)
by Robert Barga on Oct 20, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll send you my link for the historical data
If you can find a way to funnel all this into an excel template I can run through it as new rankings are released throughout the season and maybe turn this into a weekly or bi-weekly feature.
by hmlee on Oct 20, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
email me and i can send it to you (and send it to your too chi) (the one that i used for my calculations)
also, chi and i are looking at a different one that deals with the conference size (he made it, i am playing with it)
by Robert Barga on Oct 20, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds good.
Man looks in the abyss, there's nothing staring back at him. At that moment, man finds his character. And that is what keeps him out of the abyss. -- Lou Mannheim, Wall Street
by ChiSpartan on Oct 20, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you get both yours
and your collaboration with chi into excel things, I can use both in the future… Glad you guys are willing to do this – number intimidate my legal brain
by hmlee on Oct 20, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice work everyone.
This has been a really interesting read.
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by Law Buckeye on Oct 20, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This blog kills me
Bunch of geeks getting together and doing statistical analysis of things. I mean, bravo guys, but it makes me chuckle.
by imadirtyoldman on Oct 21, 2009 8:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's even better
that most of us are law geeks… ask me about joint and several liability or quantum meruit and i’ll talk your ear off ;)
by hmlee on Oct 21, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And get me with my old classmates
and we’ll sit there and debate which one of us has the coolest caseload. I’m going with me, but only because I get to be in a courtroom most (not bragging; that’s what being on the court-appointed list will do to you).
The topics you brought up make my head hurt. I’ll take a criminal deal any day of the week and twice on Sunday. But not Saturday — I have shit to do on those days.
by imadirtyoldman on Oct 22, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
environmental law for the win
just work in it now, law school next year
by Robert Barga on Oct 22, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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